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Old 06-15-2013, 11:13 AM   #41
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Yea I'm super annoyed mine spits and sputters when running on peanut oil and panther urine...

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Well there's your problem right there. Switch to canola.
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Well there's your problem right there. Switch to canola.
I fixed it. I was using the wrong panther. Drove down to Charlotte this afternoon and got cam newton to **** in my tank. Got 36 mpg on the way home and idles like a purring cat.
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I am actually considering a 3/4 Ton truck now with a 6.2L. (It doesn't appear to me that an F150 with HD Payload package is offered with the 6.2L) The reason for my initial thought of going w/ an F150 was because of the 3.5L twin turbo motor pulling like my old diesel.

But because of hearing some horror stories re: the ecoboost, I'm leery of dropping that kind of money on a truck that has a real potential for problems. If I knew for sure there wouldn't be issues with the engine, I'd definitely go for the ecoboost. (And if my dad didn't tell me I was crazy for considering the ecoboost, I'd have already placed and order for a new truck). Now I'm just sitting here trying to decide what way to go, and I may just have to way for the 2015 models and hope they don't have problems.........but then being a totally new redesign, they will probably have issues for the first couple of models (but I would hope they would have the ecoboost problems fixed by then).
A 3/4 ton will certainly put you more in a comfort range, but be careful of the number on the stickers. It is amazing how fast payload limit becomes a towing rating problem even for 3/4 ton trucks.

You've got to go with what you are comfortable with regardless. If the eco scares you, then stay away from it. I suggest however that you take a look at the towing/hauling threads on this forum. You will find mostly ecos.

As I've mentioned, I towed with both. If I did not use the truck for towing, it might likely have been the replacement for the v8 I traded in.

Drive them and tow with them is my advice.
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Why don't you just buy both of them.
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It's already been said in this thread and I am pretty sure there is a sticky about this in the forums, but you simply need to crunch some numbers and then go get the vehicle that suits your needs. 3 of the 4 models use electric steering and some seasoned haulers don't like the feel while others feel it makes for a better experience. If simplicity is a concern then the 6.2 seems to fit the bill in terms of being the "least" complex in comparison to the 3.7, 3.5TT and the 5.0. Back to the numbers you have to be conscious of your typical payload, perhaps more so than with the weight oft he trailer or load you are hauling. Are you pulling something open or something enclosed? If you really have experience towing then you know all of this and if you are over 9000 lbs on a regular/daily basis then you really should step up to the 3/4 segment. I don't care what anyone says, the 1/2 volume seller was not designed to haul significant loads on a daily basis for 200,000 miles torture tests and all the other hoopla aside. In all of the reviews and articles you will read out there, you will see that the 3.5TT, 5.0, and 6.2 did remarkably well towing when compared to all other 1/2 ton trucks. Here are some reviews to help you

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/02...liter-v-8.html

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f-150/2013/#fullreview

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...oost_update_1/
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Why don't you just buy both of them.
I wish.

If I had the extra money sitting around, I'd get a diesel 1-ton dually Crew Cab 4X4 with an 8' bed and a large camper for when I want to tow my boat and stay away from home while fishing somewhere.

Then I'd get an F150 short bed 4x4 with the 5.0L for the rest of the time.

But this crappy economy has put a pinch on my plans the last 6 years, so I'm trying to compromise and get a truck that will work the best for my needs and still leave me with some money left over to actually go places.

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It's already been said in this thread and I am pretty sure there is a sticky about this in the forums, but you simply need to crunch some numbers and then go get the vehicle that suits your needs. 3 of the 4 models use electric steering and some seasoned haulers don't like the feel while others feel it makes for a better experience. If simplicity is a concern then the 6.2 seems to fit the bill in terms of being the "least" complex in comparison to the 3.7, 3.5TT and the 5.0. Back to the numbers you have to be conscious of your typical payload, perhaps more so than with the weight oft he trailer or load you are hauling. Are you pulling something open or something enclosed? If you really have experience towing then you know all of this and if you are over 9000 lbs on a regular/daily basis then you really should step up to the 3/4 segment. I don't care what anyone says, the 1/2 volume seller was not designed to haul significant loads on a daily basis for 200,000 miles torture tests and all the other hoopla aside. In all of the reviews and articles you will read out there, you will see that the 3.5TT, 5.0, and 6.2 did remarkably well towing when compared to all other 1/2 ton trucks. Here are some reviews to help you

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/02...liter-v-8.html

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f-150/2013/#fullreview

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...oost_update_1/
Here is another great reference. http://special-reports.pickuptrucks....challenge.html

The 5.0 hangs right in there with the Eco and the bigger Hemi. Poor GM fans, disappointing performance results with the same old frame and suspension.

My new 5.0 should be here in about 3 weeks. Can't wait. My 5.4 has been good, but anxious for more power. Still wish Ford would offer the max trailer tow with the 5.0 like they did with the 5.4. Guess they wanna push the ecoboost.

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2013 6.2L F150. Go big or go home...when towing TQ is king. 12 MPG no matter if towing, cruising hwy, or stop & go city. Consistent with power, MPG, and durable cast iron block.
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I call shennagins. Not possible that the 5.0 will accelerate the way the 3.5 will. The TQ curve tells the story. It is factual data that cannot be argued whether anyone is trying to justify a purchase or preference.

Additionally, when the 5.0 downshifts further and more often, it is because you are harder (necessarily) on the gas pedal. Simply, it will gulp more gas. The more downshifts, the more pedal, the more gas. You will also be pushing into the throttle far deeper to get up to speed, pull hills and generally accelerate even when flat... all of this gulps additional gas.

The 3.5 is better compared with the 6.2. The 5.0 is a nice base engine for those that want light duty or to drive as a car.

To the OP, if you are on the fence between a V8 and the 3.5, look to the 6.2, drive them both and make the decision you will be happy with.
While I understand the base logic in your argument there are a few factors that you did not appear to include in your statement. Torque is monumental, we will both agree on that. However, how long does it take the motor to get into that power, i.e. how fast will it spin up. Depending on track conditions, racers will change the fly wheel either for quick acceleration or sustained speed when cruising. You say that dipping into the throttle and dropping gears is going to burn more gas and in the days of carburetored engines this was very true. You are correct that under higher RPMs the RATE at which fuel is consumed increases. Remember in the boosted applications the motor is performing like a larger displacement motor. You will note in the majority of advertised towing tests between the motors in question, the TT still managed similar or poorer fuel economy than the naturally aspirated 5.0 and even the 6.2. When under boost, the computer must contribute more fuel to the mix.
A lot of these arguments come down to perceived work the engine is doing and what it was designed to do. You can spin the 5.0 all day long and it will be fine. The excessive heat generated with forced induction is not present in this application. When towing you can take advantage of engine breaking at higher RPMs. You are not going to driving uphill both ways LOL. That being said the recreational and light duty tower will fair fine with the 5.0. The seasoned hauler should consider the eco-boost or even a 3/4 ton. As mentioned by other posters, payload is usually what puts people over the limit, not the trailer in tow. I have posted an excerpt from an article where the author is towing with the 5.0 and you will note there was never a need to "floor it". INfact they had to back off the throttle going uphill.

On the steepest parts of Cajon, we had no problem keeping up with traffic at around 65 mph with the modest 3.73-to-1 rear axle. When the engine needed more power, its six-speed transmission smoothly downshifted to 3rd gear, and the mill found its sweet spot at around 4,000 rpm. The truck never lost momentum. In fact, it gained speed to the point where we had to ease back on the accelerator. After cresting the top of the grade, the truck quickly upshifted into 6th at 1,600 rpm and 65 mph.


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Here is another great reference. http://special-reports.pickuptrucks....challenge.html

The 5.0 hangs right in there with the Eco and the bigger Hemi. Poor GM fans, disappointing performance results with the same old frame and suspension.

My new 5.0 should be here in about 3 weeks. Can't wait. My 5.4 has been good, but anxious for more power. Still wish Ford would offer the max trailer tow with the 5.0 like they did with the 5.4. Guess they wanna push the ecoboost.
I can't seem to find a 5.0 F150 anywhere in this link????
You know the obvious reason why the Ecoboost gets the Max tow pkg and not the 5.0... Ford certainly didn't just give the Ecoboost the max tow pkg over the 5.0 because it wanted to "PUSH" Ecoboost sales. The Ecoboost has proven to be the best towing 1/2 ton on the market...
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