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Old 06-07-2013, 07:16 PM
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One thing that is a factor for me is you can't make a V-6 sound good with a performance exhaust. Sounds like crap and no amount of turbo whine is going to help, nothing like the deep tone of a V-8 that says American Muscle. Just food for thought. I didn't even know they had a turbo V-6 for the trucks when I bought mine, I went looking for a V-8 to begin with. All in all it is a personal choice.

I like to gamble once in a while, (Lotto) not my truck pulling a load and falling flat on it's face when the eco dies out and I need power, I know when I plant my foot the V-8 can breath all on it's own with no help from a turbo.
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For me it was the towing capacity and overall power of the EcoBoost. I don't need my truck to sound great, I need it to get the job done.

My EcoBoost fits the bill. My second one is just as strong as the first one, with not one issue with either.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BCMIF150
For me it was the towing capacity and overall power of the EcoBoost. I don't need my truck to sound great, I need it to get the job done.

My EcoBoost fits the bill. My second one is just as strong as the first one, with not one issue with either.

You have 10 extra horse power over the V-8.

I have a 16 hp zero turn lawn mower. I win





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That last part is untrue. Get what fits your needs. The eco is mainly for towing. You will gas it when you get in it so not good gas mileage. I have a 5.0 and love it, also the wife who liked the eco loves this now. Take in consideration how long are you wanting to keep the vehicle. Repair costs down the road. And what will you use it for? Dont let someone say get the eco or 5.0 or even the 3.7. Look at cost, rebates and can get more of a truck fx2 for the cost of a eco xlt. Good luck either way you will be happy.
No, it is very true. The OP said he tows a considerable amount. Based on that alone, the 5.0 will let him down. The 5.0 lacks the TQ necessary to maintain a gear (or two in many cases) when pulling even modest inclines. Additionally, I would rather be able to be at 60 mph when merging onto a freeway than 45.

In the ecoboost challenge, the ecoboost beat both the chebby and the dodge to 60 by 12 seconds. That is a lot of time. The 5.0 would have fared no better- or marginally so.

I tow a 7000lb (loaded) boat and, as I said, towed with BOTH trucks prior to purchasing mine. The ecoboost, for towing, hauling, working hard was a clear choice. If you are going to drive the truck like a car, there really is no difference and at that point it is total preference and preference alone.

Rnlcomp - it is TQ that matters. The TQ curve of the ecoboost and that of the 5.0 - even 6.2 tell a factual story that has nothing to do with with personal taste.

When in the field, I will always choose equip that allows me to pull a 12 bottom plow than a 2 bottom plow. Simple economics.

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Originally Posted by jwanck11

No, it is very true. The OP said he tows a considerable amount. Based on that alone, the 5.0 will let him down. The 5.0 lacks the TQ necessary to maintain a gear (or two in many cases) when pulling even modest inclines. Additionally, I would rather be able to be at 60 mph when merging onto a freeway than 45.

In the ecoboost challenge, the ecoboost beat both the chebby and the dodge to 60 by 12 seconds. That is a lot of time. The 5.0 would have fared no better- or marginally so.

I tow a 7000lb (loaded) boat and, as I said, towed with BOTH trucks prior to purchasing mine. The ecoboost, for towing, hauling, working hard was a clear choice. If you are going to drive the truck like a car, there really is no difference and at that point it is total preference and preference alone.

Rnlcomp - it is TQ that matters. The TQ curve of the ecoboost and that of the 5.0 - even 6.2 tell a factual story that has nothing to do with with personal taste.

When in the field, I will always choose equip that allows me to pull a 12 bottom plow than a 2 bottom plow. Simple economics.
I too tow a lot with my truck. I have a 23 ft center console boat and an enclose car hauler that I pull. I had an ecoboost and it pulled them both very well, when it ran correctly. I got between 10.5 and 12 mpg towing them on the interstates that I drive with my Eco. I traded it on a 5.0 after a lot of issues with my Eco. I agree that the Eco won't downshift as far down the gear box as the 5.0 to pull the hills. But... My 5.0 is getting a consistent 13.4-15.6 mpg in comparison to the Eco pulling the two. Places where my Eco downshifted to 5th to pull a hill the 5.0 goes to 4th.

My Eco was geared at 3.73 and the 5.0 has a 3.55. I would say that in my own experience the Eco did better around town but my 5.0 gets better mileage on the interstate, and in towing. Also, when in tow haul stopping is much easier with the 5.0. The engine didnt seem to help slow down as much with the Eco as the v8. I think they will both do the job, I just had one of the bad ones. A test for me was getting onto the interstate near where I live pulling the car hauler. At the end of the ramp I was usually running right at 70 mph to merge with the Eco. The 5.0 does the same for me, it just does it without shifting out of 4th gear until I let off.
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Originally Posted by jwanck11
You will be very unhappy with the 5.0.
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
You have 10 extra horse power over the V-8.
And I have 40 more lb-ft torque.

For the Win!

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Originally Posted by Coho
Don't be scared to look at an EcoBoost because of one persons experience/story. There are over 400,000 happy EcoBoost owners with no problems making 19-23 mpg city & 24-30 mpg on the highway.
FYI he is talking Imperial MPG not puny US MPG!
That said, I don't get that mileage with my 3.5L.

I have many things going against me such as 4x4, SCrew, Max Tow, etc.

I tested both EB and 5.0. I could have had a low end FX4 5.0 for the same price as my loaded EB XLT. Actually the sticker was $200 less. I chose EB because of the quietness, Max Tow/ greater payload, and the addictive low end torque. If I didn't need the towing capability I would probably still have my 06 Dakota.

Winding out that 5.0 was pretty sweet though.

Don't listen to those who criticize what they don't have. As often as not they merely want to justify their choice, not yours. Both engines are fantastic.
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
One thing that is a factor for me is you can't make a V-6 sound good with a performance exhaust. Sounds like crap and no amount of turbo whine is going to help, nothing like the deep tone of a V-8 that says American Muscle. Just food for thought. I didn't even know they had a turbo V-6 for the trucks when I bought mine, I went looking for a V-8 to begin with. All in all it is a personal choice.

I like to gamble once in a while, (Lotto) not my truck pulling a load and falling flat on it's face when the eco dies out and I need power, I know when I plant my foot the V-8 can breath all on it's own with no help from a turbo.
You bought a 2013 5.0 and didn't know about the turbo V6??? Have you been living under a rock for the past two years?? I do agree with you that it is a personal choice and for me nothing says AMERICAN MUSCLE more than being able to climb steep grades towing 7000+ lbs at 2500 rpms. You can have the DEEP TONE of your V8, I'll stick with the crappy quiet sounding V6 that tows like a mini diesel. I need a little more than just a good sounding exhaust note.
P.S.- For the record, IF i did start having the fall on your face problem i would probably just trade it in on a 6.2L. Even though the mpg will be much worse it is much more comparable to the Ecoboost than the little naturally aspirated 5.0.
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Originally Posted by EcoboostKev
You bought a 2013 5.0 and didn't know about the turbo V6??? Have you been living under a rock for the past two years?? I do agree with you that it is a personal choice and for me nothing says AMERICAN MUSCLE more than being able to climb steep grades towing 7000+ lbs at 2500 rpms. You can have the DEEP TONE of your V8, I'll stick with the crappy quiet sounding V6 that tows like a mini diesel. I need a little more than just a good sounding exhaust note.
P.S.- For the record, IF i did start having the fall on your face problem i would probably just trade it in on a 6.2L. Even though the mpg will be much worse it is much more comparable to the Ecoboost than the little naturally aspirated 5.0.
I like how people get upset then run to the admin about threads getting out of hand because of supposedly the 5.0 V8 members getting out of hand. But when you have little headed people talking about their little twin turbo and comparing to the "little naturally aspirated 5.0", it is just a matter of time when they (turbo's or intercooler) fail what will you have, a 3.5L v6 (some cars have bigger engines in them) minus the turbo. Lets see how well those tow with it sitting in a 5k lbs plus truck. Just saying..

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