Getting a E4OD to shift firmer
04-07-2015, 09:49 PM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Getting a E4OD to shift firmer
Drove my 95 for the first time since installing the junkyard trans and realized why I did not like that trans much,I had a 92 about 10 years ago and never like the way it shifted and I do not think the 95 is going to be any better so is there a way to firm up the shifts without spending a fortune.
04-27-2015, 02:13 PM
#2
There are several ways to do that. In order of expense, from greatest to least.
I'm not sure what your tuning options are for a 9th gen, so 1 and 2 may or may not apply.
1. Custom Tune - by far the most expensive, they can be a small fortune, but probably the best way to go about it. If you're happy with where your truck is mod wise there are tons of options, the search bar is your friend. If you think you'll be changing things around constantly, you can have your custom tune redone everytime, or lookinto programmers like Sniper as they allow you to change parameters. Prices vary widely, but figure close to a grand.
2. Canned Tune - seems like increasing shift firmness is a pretty common feature for most of the handheld programmers like SuperChips and Diablo. They aren't nearly as featured as a custom tune, but thereare plenty of guys on here who love them in their trucks. Figure acouple hundred bucksto almost a grand. They are out there used for cheaper.
3. Shift kit - a little labor intensive,you gotta get inside the differential/pumpkin. If you doit yourself it can be cheap, but having a shop drop in a ford racing kit will get expensive quick. Some kits are available for less than a hundred bucks, I have noidea what a ford racing setup typically runs.
4. Track Trick - Not for the feint of heart and not for your daily driver, but it's relatively quick and easy, and the only special parts you need are available at radioshack for a couple dollars. Essentially its just a pot, or potentiometer, just like the volume **** on an electric guitar - that's wired in place of the transmissions pressure sensor and feeds a driver controllable variable resistance back to the computer. With the right resistance, you'll trick the ecu into believing the shift pressure is too low and it will respond by increasing it. The same thing could be done with a fixed value resistor if you have the correct value, the pot is just nice for dialing in and changing settings on the fly. You could wire it to a relay or relays to switch between modified and standard shift firmnesses. If you really wanted to get crazy with it, they could switch automatically by speed or gear commanded or anything...
CONCLUSION - Get a shift kit or a handheld tuner. If done in a shop, they'll probably run you about the same. A nice shift kit probably does what youre looking for a little better, but the tuner is much easier and has all sorts of other options.
I'm not sure what your tuning options are for a 9th gen, so 1 and 2 may or may not apply.
1. Custom Tune - by far the most expensive, they can be a small fortune, but probably the best way to go about it. If you're happy with where your truck is mod wise there are tons of options, the search bar is your friend. If you think you'll be changing things around constantly, you can have your custom tune redone everytime, or lookinto programmers like Sniper as they allow you to change parameters. Prices vary widely, but figure close to a grand.
2. Canned Tune - seems like increasing shift firmness is a pretty common feature for most of the handheld programmers like SuperChips and Diablo. They aren't nearly as featured as a custom tune, but thereare plenty of guys on here who love them in their trucks. Figure acouple hundred bucksto almost a grand. They are out there used for cheaper.
3. Shift kit - a little labor intensive,you gotta get inside the differential/pumpkin. If you doit yourself it can be cheap, but having a shop drop in a ford racing kit will get expensive quick. Some kits are available for less than a hundred bucks, I have noidea what a ford racing setup typically runs.
4. Track Trick - Not for the feint of heart and not for your daily driver, but it's relatively quick and easy, and the only special parts you need are available at radioshack for a couple dollars. Essentially its just a pot, or potentiometer, just like the volume **** on an electric guitar - that's wired in place of the transmissions pressure sensor and feeds a driver controllable variable resistance back to the computer. With the right resistance, you'll trick the ecu into believing the shift pressure is too low and it will respond by increasing it. The same thing could be done with a fixed value resistor if you have the correct value, the pot is just nice for dialing in and changing settings on the fly. You could wire it to a relay or relays to switch between modified and standard shift firmnesses. If you really wanted to get crazy with it, they could switch automatically by speed or gear commanded or anything...
CONCLUSION - Get a shift kit or a handheld tuner. If done in a shop, they'll probably run you about the same. A nice shift kit probably does what youre looking for a little better, but the tuner is much easier and has all sorts of other options.
08-15-2015, 10:10 AM
#4
Senior Member
There are several ways to do that. In order of expense, from greatest to least.
I'm not sure what your tuning options are for a 9th gen, so 1 and 2 may or may not apply.
1. Custom Tune - by far the most expensive, they can be a small fortune, but probably the best way to go about it. If you're happy with where your truck is mod wise there are tons of options, the search bar is your friend. If you think you'll be changing things around constantly, you can have your custom tune redone everytime, or lookinto programmers like Sniper as they allow you to change parameters. Prices vary widely, but figure close to a grand.
2. Canned Tune - seems like increasing shift firmness is a pretty common feature for most of the handheld programmers like SuperChips and Diablo. They aren't nearly as featured as a custom tune, but thereare plenty of guys on here who love them in their trucks. Figure acouple hundred bucksto almost a grand. They are out there used for cheaper.
3. Shift kit - a little labor intensive,you gotta get inside the differential/pumpkin. If you doit yourself it can be cheap, but having a shop drop in a ford racing kit will get expensive quick. Some kits are available for less than a hundred bucks, I have noidea what a ford racing setup typically runs.
4. Track Trick - Not for the feint of heart and not for your daily driver, but it's relatively quick and easy, and the only special parts you need are available at radioshack for a couple dollars. Essentially its just a pot, or potentiometer, just like the volume **** on an electric guitar - that's wired in place of the transmissions pressure sensor and feeds a driver controllable variable resistance back to the computer. With the right resistance, you'll trick the ecu into believing the shift pressure is too low and it will respond by increasing it. The same thing could be done with a fixed value resistor if you have the correct value, the pot is just nice for dialing in and changing settings on the fly. You could wire it to a relay or relays to switch between modified and standard shift firmnesses. If you really wanted to get crazy with it, they could switch automatically by speed or gear commanded or anything...
CONCLUSION - Get a shift kit or a handheld tuner. If done in a shop, they'll probably run you about the same. A nice shift kit probably does what youre looking for a little better, but the tuner is much easier and has all sorts of other options.
I'm not sure what your tuning options are for a 9th gen, so 1 and 2 may or may not apply.
1. Custom Tune - by far the most expensive, they can be a small fortune, but probably the best way to go about it. If you're happy with where your truck is mod wise there are tons of options, the search bar is your friend. If you think you'll be changing things around constantly, you can have your custom tune redone everytime, or lookinto programmers like Sniper as they allow you to change parameters. Prices vary widely, but figure close to a grand.
2. Canned Tune - seems like increasing shift firmness is a pretty common feature for most of the handheld programmers like SuperChips and Diablo. They aren't nearly as featured as a custom tune, but thereare plenty of guys on here who love them in their trucks. Figure acouple hundred bucksto almost a grand. They are out there used for cheaper.
3. Shift kit - a little labor intensive,you gotta get inside the differential/pumpkin. If you doit yourself it can be cheap, but having a shop drop in a ford racing kit will get expensive quick. Some kits are available for less than a hundred bucks, I have noidea what a ford racing setup typically runs.
4. Track Trick - Not for the feint of heart and not for your daily driver, but it's relatively quick and easy, and the only special parts you need are available at radioshack for a couple dollars. Essentially its just a pot, or potentiometer, just like the volume **** on an electric guitar - that's wired in place of the transmissions pressure sensor and feeds a driver controllable variable resistance back to the computer. With the right resistance, you'll trick the ecu into believing the shift pressure is too low and it will respond by increasing it. The same thing could be done with a fixed value resistor if you have the correct value, the pot is just nice for dialing in and changing settings on the fly. You could wire it to a relay or relays to switch between modified and standard shift firmnesses. If you really wanted to get crazy with it, they could switch automatically by speed or gear commanded or anything...
CONCLUSION - Get a shift kit or a handheld tuner. If done in a shop, they'll probably run you about the same. A nice shift kit probably does what youre looking for a little better, but the tuner is much easier and has all sorts of other options.
Could you explain this? ^^^^
All the shift kits, I've installed were in the trans valve bodies. I've rebuilt a few 4R100's (updated E4OD). I used TransGo and Sonnax parts in my valve bodies. The thing you have to watch is that a tuner will amplify the effects of a shift kit, if installed in combination, and can result in harsh shifts.