oil additive for Ecoboost?
03-11-2015, 08:38 AM
#1
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oil additive for Ecoboost?
I'm wondering if anyone uses an oil additive or fuel treatment? I've used Lucas in all my vehicles and a mechanic friend of mine does the same.
This is my first turbo direct injection engine though..
My concern is with it being a direct injection, how will it burn and run through the intercooler? Will it help keep the valves clean or with it being so tacky, actually do more harm?
Also, has anyone used Seafoam in the oil or fuel? I know I've used Seafoam in many vehicles too, with great results. My concerns are the same with the direct injection.
Both products say safe for all engines....
Anyone have some fact about this or a lot of experience on the subject?
This is my first turbo direct injection engine though..
My concern is with it being a direct injection, how will it burn and run through the intercooler? Will it help keep the valves clean or with it being so tacky, actually do more harm?
Also, has anyone used Seafoam in the oil or fuel? I know I've used Seafoam in many vehicles too, with great results. My concerns are the same with the direct injection.
Both products say safe for all engines....
Anyone have some fact about this or a lot of experience on the subject?
03-11-2015, 08:46 AM
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I'm wondering if anyone uses an oil additive or fuel treatment? I've used Lucas in all my vehicles and a mechanic friend of mine does the same.
This is my first turbo direct injection engine though..
My concern is with it being a direct injection, how will it burn and run through the intercooler? Will it help keep the valves clean or with it being so tacky, actually do more harm?
Also, has anyone used Seafoam in the oil or fuel? I know I've used Seafoam in many vehicles too, with great results. My concerns are the same with the direct injection.
Both products say safe for all engines....
Anyone have some fact about this or a lot of experience on the subject?
This is my first turbo direct injection engine though..
My concern is with it being a direct injection, how will it burn and run through the intercooler? Will it help keep the valves clean or with it being so tacky, actually do more harm?
Also, has anyone used Seafoam in the oil or fuel? I know I've used Seafoam in many vehicles too, with great results. My concerns are the same with the direct injection.
Both products say safe for all engines....
Anyone have some fact about this or a lot of experience on the subject?
1. Only approved additive is Techron. Don't put anything else in there.
2. Avoid Seafoam like the plague. Read the MSDS - does that look like something you should put in a modern computer-controlled engine? Kiss yer cats & O2's goodbye.
http://seafoamsales.com/wp-content/u...seafoam_EN.pdf
It's garbage.
As for oil treatment - use NOTHING. Nothing is required. The modern oil ad-packs have everything. And NEVER put the Seafoam crap in yer crankcase!
MGD
Last edited by MGD; 03-11-2015 at 09:12 AM.
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03-11-2015, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for the info.
I know lot's of people using Seafoam and many diesel guys who absolutely swear by it. It does clean well. I've seen rough running small engines run smoother after a treatment as well.
It does look pretty hazardous on that MSDS sheet though!
I know lot's of people using Seafoam and many diesel guys who absolutely swear by it. It does clean well. I've seen rough running small engines run smoother after a treatment as well.
It does look pretty hazardous on that MSDS sheet though!
03-11-2015, 10:28 AM
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Here's another red flag - it's the EXACT SAME concoction they relabel as 'Trans Tune'. Who the fork is dumb enough to put THAT in their trans ???? Apparently - just the home-schooled barefooted hillbillies, I reckon - must be a lot of 'em, lol.
As a parts cleaner on the bench - go for it.
MGD
Last edited by MGD; 03-11-2015 at 10:48 AM. Reason: spellin', lol
09-19-2015, 11:51 AM
#6
There is only one additive I would ever use, if I could get it reasonably. I have used it in the past, and it was not hard to get until the MLM group decided to obscound with the money and run.
It is called Moly Black Gold, and uses Molybdenum Disulfied in it as the high pressure lubricant, and is very slick stuff, and with the QX in it gets absorbed by the metal, drawing the moly in with it, helping it bond to the metal. It works great, protects the metal from dry starts, and if you ever lost oil pressure, the QX sweats out of the metal providing just a bit more protection to prevent damage.
The company still exists, based in Canada, Champion Q-X, and sells it to industries. Good stuff too, not an oil additive, but a metal treatment.
http://www.championqxecanada.com/en/historic.php
However with that being said, and since it is no longer available for consumer use, oil additives are not necessary!
Back in the early 90's was when it was marketed through an MLM, and oil back then is nothing like what we have now, 3000 mile changes were needed as the oils broke down quickly, and additives were all the rage to extend oil life, but many had bad side effects, like PTFE. Remember Slick50? It was slick alright, made those bills slide out of your wallet really fast. Did nothing for the life of the engine though. The MBG though did.
I had a 1979 Ford LTD with the 302, and I had torn down that engine and rebuilt is, blue printing it along the way. I started using MBG after the second oil change, and went 10K or more between changes, only because I drove the crap out of that wagon, putting 300K on that engine before the car rotted out. Since the engine still ran good, I decided to put it in a 1985 Grand Marquis that was in good shape. To do so I had to replace the intake and oil pan, so good time to check the bearings. When I opened the engine up, it was spotless inside, looked like it did when I built it. I plasti-gauged the bearings, and they were all withing specs, with very little wear. I attributed this cleanliness to using the MBG, it did what it said. I also used their transmission treatment, and drove that wagon all those miles on the original transmission, and it was still working good when I pulled the engine.
Today though, engines and oils as so much better, that I would not use it even if I could still get it. It would frankly be a waste of money. I get the same protection using Mobil 1. I dont think I would get the same dry run protection though, but I would hope I never lose oil pressure either. Engines last far longer today than they did in 1979 too. Part of that is due to better lubricants, but mostly because of better materials, better manufacturing, and tighter tolerances.
Now that I think about it, I still have an air compressor I use on occasion that I bought back in 1984, and used MBG when I filled the crank case. I have never changed the oil in it, and it is still working as good as it did back when it was new. I have gone through a few pressure switches and a belt or two, but the compressor head has never been touched. I would use it in small engines if I could get it, but not in my truck, no need for it.
It is called Moly Black Gold, and uses Molybdenum Disulfied in it as the high pressure lubricant, and is very slick stuff, and with the QX in it gets absorbed by the metal, drawing the moly in with it, helping it bond to the metal. It works great, protects the metal from dry starts, and if you ever lost oil pressure, the QX sweats out of the metal providing just a bit more protection to prevent damage.
The company still exists, based in Canada, Champion Q-X, and sells it to industries. Good stuff too, not an oil additive, but a metal treatment.
http://www.championqxecanada.com/en/historic.php
However with that being said, and since it is no longer available for consumer use, oil additives are not necessary!
Back in the early 90's was when it was marketed through an MLM, and oil back then is nothing like what we have now, 3000 mile changes were needed as the oils broke down quickly, and additives were all the rage to extend oil life, but many had bad side effects, like PTFE. Remember Slick50? It was slick alright, made those bills slide out of your wallet really fast. Did nothing for the life of the engine though. The MBG though did.
I had a 1979 Ford LTD with the 302, and I had torn down that engine and rebuilt is, blue printing it along the way. I started using MBG after the second oil change, and went 10K or more between changes, only because I drove the crap out of that wagon, putting 300K on that engine before the car rotted out. Since the engine still ran good, I decided to put it in a 1985 Grand Marquis that was in good shape. To do so I had to replace the intake and oil pan, so good time to check the bearings. When I opened the engine up, it was spotless inside, looked like it did when I built it. I plasti-gauged the bearings, and they were all withing specs, with very little wear. I attributed this cleanliness to using the MBG, it did what it said. I also used their transmission treatment, and drove that wagon all those miles on the original transmission, and it was still working good when I pulled the engine.
Today though, engines and oils as so much better, that I would not use it even if I could still get it. It would frankly be a waste of money. I get the same protection using Mobil 1. I dont think I would get the same dry run protection though, but I would hope I never lose oil pressure either. Engines last far longer today than they did in 1979 too. Part of that is due to better lubricants, but mostly because of better materials, better manufacturing, and tighter tolerances.
Now that I think about it, I still have an air compressor I use on occasion that I bought back in 1984, and used MBG when I filled the crank case. I have never changed the oil in it, and it is still working as good as it did back when it was new. I have gone through a few pressure switches and a belt or two, but the compressor head has never been touched. I would use it in small engines if I could get it, but not in my truck, no need for it.
