89 F150 No Start
#31
it just kinda falls out of the rear tank, doesn't seem to have anything pressure wise.
I have been driving the truck on the rear tank mostly, 2 days ago getting on the interstate it started cutting out so I switch to the front and all was well. Made it home, at night I switch it back to the rear tank to see if it would run and it did great for a day, then at the end of the day it started cutting out again so I switched to the front, again it was fine.
Last edited by Foolish_Mortal; 07-05-2013 at 02:16 PM.
#33
I don't quite understand how the fuel valve could shut off the rear pump when it was running on the rear pump unless the rear pump lost pressure. :/
#34
Ok, I pulled the switching valve,
Front tank seems to be putting out proper pressure from the fuel line, rear tank seems to trickle, plug in switching valve, fuel shoots through just fine on the front tank, rear tank is just a trickle. Although I don't understand why fuel is now coming out of both pressure lines even with the key off, and then continues even with the battery unhooked, the truck does run, I also suspect the truck is sucking off both fuel tanks or they were cross filling :/
Front tank seems to be putting out proper pressure from the fuel line, rear tank seems to trickle, plug in switching valve, fuel shoots through just fine on the front tank, rear tank is just a trickle. Although I don't understand why fuel is now coming out of both pressure lines even with the key off, and then continues even with the battery unhooked, the truck does run, I also suspect the truck is sucking off both fuel tanks or they were cross filling :/
Last edited by Foolish_Mortal; 07-05-2013 at 05:58 PM.
#35
November 2011 TOTM Winner
The dribble is siphon action. Store the disconnected lines higher then the tank. The in tanks are volumetric pumps and need to provide a certain volume of fuel to the DFR so the high pressure frame pump will be supplied. Without the volume the frame pump cavitates, pressure to the fuel rail is reduced or non existent, the pump growls from loss of fuel and the engine stops running. If the high pressure pump continues to see cavitation it will eventually fail since it uses the fuel for lubrication and cooling.
Last edited by 5Rangers; 07-05-2013 at 11:01 PM.
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#36
The dribble is siphon action. Store the disconnected lines higher then the tank. The in tanks are volumetric pumps and need to provide a certain volume of fuel to the DFR so the high pressure frame pump will be supplied. Without the volume the frame pump cavitates, pressure to the fuel rail is reduced or non existent, the pump growls from loss of fuel and the engine stops running. If the high pressure pump continues to see cavitation it will eventually fail since it uses the fuel for lubrication and cooling.
Thank for your response, especially on the dribble, I've done tons of fuel pumps and never ran into it before.
#37
November 2011 TOTM Winner
Correct.. There are 2 schools of thought. One says remove the bed and another says drop the tank. I follow the school of drop the tank since I have no friends. It is easily done when empty. Installing is a different story but is also easily accomplished with using ratchet type cargo straps to assist in raising and positioning the tank.
As a side note, the ford manual specifies no more the 5 psi of regulated air for testing the DFR. Hopefully you wont have any problems with it.
As a side note, the ford manual specifies no more the 5 psi of regulated air for testing the DFR. Hopefully you wont have any problems with it.
Last edited by 5Rangers; 07-05-2013 at 11:34 PM.
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#38
Correct.. There are 2 schools of thought. One says remove the bed and another says drop the tank. I follow the school of drop the tank since I have no friends. It is easily done when empty. Installing is a different story but is also easily accomplished with using ratchet type cargo straps to assist in raising and positioning the tank.
As a side note, the ford manual specifies no more the 5 psi of regulated air for testing the DFR. Hopefully you wont have any problems with it.
As a side note, the ford manual specifies no more the 5 psi of regulated air for testing the DFR. Hopefully you wont have any problems with it.
which should end well
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#39
You have me :hug: And i have lots of friends. Just drive it to Illinois, And we will change that bish. Ain't no way i'm coming to Mexicano :O
You could , just be a man and cut the bed open.
Orrr, Put like 30 or 15 electric inline pumps on it
You could , just be a man and cut the bed open.
Orrr, Put like 30 or 15 electric inline pumps on it
#40
I thought of cutting an access hole but I really don't want to take a torch to my truck
Last edited by Foolish_Mortal; 07-06-2013 at 12:12 PM.