Topic Sponsor
1987 - 1996 F150 Still running strong! Talk about your 8th and 9th generation Ford F150 trucks.

4.9L Manual to 5.8W swap questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-15-2017, 06:05 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Michael Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 4.9L Manual to 5.8W swap questions

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to find out if I'm missing anything on a swap I'm trying to do. I currently have a 1993 4.9L manual with 330K miles on it and just received a 5.8w out of a 1994 that had an automatic (didn't get the auto). I also received the ECU, wire harness, radiator, and engine mounts. I also know that I need the flywheel for the 5.8L.I'm keeping the manual and planning on switching over to a ZF-5 manual when I find one. I received this truck from my dad a few years ago and went through it replacing everything on it till it runs brand new again. Last thing is just the engine. The one I have runs well enough just a little wore out. Truck holds a lot of sentimental value for me but isn't my daily driver.

My question is am I missing anything wiring related because of the previous auto transmission?. Does anybody have a detailed wiring diagram of the wiring harness/ECU?
Old 01-15-2017, 09:50 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
forrest411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 201
Received 21 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

The 94 engine would be set up for Mass Air Flow. Did you get all if that with the new engine as well?
Old 01-15-2017, 11:39 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
VickMacky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 639
Received 54 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by forrest411
The 94 engine would be set up for Mass Air Flow. Did you get all if that with the new engine as well?
Maybe, maybe not. My 94 5.8 is not MAF it's SD.
Old 01-15-2017, 05:47 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Michael Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I was hoping it would be Maf but it's not. I'll prob have to do that conversion later.
Old 01-16-2017, 10:29 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
forrest411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 201
Received 21 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Yeah I forgot that the 5.8's didn't switch over until 95. My 94 f150 is MAF but it came with the 5.0. When I did my 302 to 351w swas I got the 351w out of a 95 bronco.

Anyway, I would try to get the parts you need to do the MAF conversion at the same time as the engine swap if you can. It makes it easier when it comes to getting it running right.

Last edited by forrest411; 01-16-2017 at 08:09 PM. Reason: Spelling
Old 01-16-2017, 12:28 PM
  #6  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Michael Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Okay . So need to find MAF conversion pieces and a ZF-5 transmission.

As far as the ECU and wiring harness does anybody foresee a problem with wiring seeing how the ECU was originally setup for an automatic?
Old 01-18-2017, 12:51 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Chris_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,811
Received 708 Likes on 671 Posts

Default

Yes. The ECU will be searching for shift points.
You said you got engine mounts - the rubber ones that bolt to the motor // or did you get the steel frame perches that the engine mounts bolt to ? Because you will need those; the 4.9 ones are completely different and in a different place.
I'll see if I can find a picture that shows the frame perches.


You can see them attached to the back of the engine crossmember. 302 and 351 are the same.<br/>4.9 ones sit on top of the c/member.
Old 01-20-2017, 09:06 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Michael Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Uhm... No out looks like I didn't get those. I got the engine mounts but not the perches. Thank you for that. Is there another way around the ecu transmission problem or do I have to find an ECU for a manual?
Old 01-21-2017, 08:21 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Chris_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,811
Received 708 Likes on 671 Posts

Default

ECU has to match the motor and transmission.
Old 01-26-2017, 11:17 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
frank5079's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Winchester. KY
Posts: 201
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

I'm doing a similar swap; my truck is a '94 300 six with a 5 speed gearbox. I've found a donor truck, a '95 F-250 SuperCab with a 351 and a 5 speed(w/ a granny 1st gear) for $500.00

ECU has to match the motor and transmission.
Hopefully the ECU won't make a distinction between my Mazda 5 speed gearbox and the 5 speed with creeper gear....

Last edited by frank5079; 01-26-2017 at 11:55 AM.




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:25 PM.